They have made 3 movies so far, I really enjoyed most of movie 2, movie 1 I didn't buy into all this jesus as being part of the zodiac stuff but the rest was good, weird but I dont remember much of 3 but sounded a lot like 2.
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The Zeitgeist Movement
by losthobbit injust wondering if anyone here is a supporter of the zeitgeist movement?
it's not a religion, and it's not zeitgeist: the movie.
it's a group of people who want to eliminate the world's biggest problems by removing their root cause.
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New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures
by Quendi ini know this has been discussed before, but i want to reopen the topic.
i am currently reading ray franz's memoir crisis of conscience and ran across this footnote with respect to the new world translation of the holy scriptures:.
"the new world translation bears no translator's name and is presented as the anonymous work of the "new world translation committee.
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Joey Jo-Jo
There are rumours going around that the NWT is based on another vesion of the bible which I dont recall its name, that the author used spirit mediums to write the bible, is that true?
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trying to reach teenage daughter
by Aussie Oz inhad some interesting chats with my daughter today about whether she believes everything she hears at the meetings and reads in the watchtower.. turns out she does.. until i pressed on a few subjects... turns out she does not think worldly people are bad, that the wt is wrong for blanket statements about how evil they all are, that she does not think it is right that they have failed predicting the end for over a hundred years and disagrees when they keep pushing the end,.
and i find this all rather alarming!.
because although some lights are firing (and i mean that in a nice way!).
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Joey Jo-Jo
yes influence her but dont push her away, love is the best treatment (im sure you have read combatting cult mind control).
At 13 I believed in the truth but I also liked violent video games and movies.
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YHWH a minor pagan god: Ugaritic Texts and the Sons of El
by DoomVoyager ininteresting.. here is the first thing i've found on the subject, though i haven't read much of it yet.. http://faculty.gordon.edu/hu/bi/ted_hildebrandt/otesources/05-deuteronomy/text/articles/heiser-deut32-bs.htm.
pseudo.
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Joey Jo-Jo
Mad Sweeney: I agree, like God speaks about other Gods not as false gods but real that his people (Moses followers) should not follow, just wanted to know if the bible contradicts this gnosticism view about polytheistic, I also read hints of polytheism on the first 2 books of the OT, but I just wanted to know if the bible contradicts with this and its self as it usually does. What im getting at is that the book of rev initially was not accepted as part of the bible and its the only book that refers to god as first and last. But I don't think we can be entirely sure, copies of copies and we don't know about these authenticates of these Gnostic books, but truth be said there are more of these books than others, Bart Ehrman also makes a good point that most of the ancient literature that appeared during the last 300 years have all been gnosticism (another way of putting it are books that are not in harmony with the 4 apostles of the NT).
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Is life a black comedy?
by Joey Jo-Jo induring the normal working day routine something occured to me that has been in the back of my mind for some time.. during bible times, scriptures dont appear to have a sense of humour, i believe its because life was (and his) serious, they were very dependent on what they made and ate, life must have been tuff, no diswashers, no cars, no gas or electricity etc.. fast forward to today, we work for the rest of our lifes but confort standards have increased, we have a huge selection of foods and entertainment, we go home to spend time with our loved ones, watch tv not realising in our own little way we have been condition to think during these years, that we dont think about tommorrow-death, we can suffer from some disease, the animals we eat suffered for our pleasure of eating meat, still in our time people die from starvation, natural disasters, crimes and war.. reality bites, dont know who said that but its very true.. and while my dad prays before dinner for god to help all brothers, "brothers" suffer, die, and others still die of starvation.
if i was ever going to reconcile the bible with reality, the same question that turned bart ehrman into an agnostic "why does god permit suffering" the most logical conclusion (and while faulty)i can come up with is that god is impartial, as it says it rains on both the good and the bad.
since the bible is faulty i could go one step further and say by what i see around, that while the creation of life (plants, animals etc) are intelligent, what or who ever created us either forgot about us or does not us to know, or does not want us to understand at this time.. when watching the royal wedding, watching the priests and royalty, i wonder how much blood and sacrifice went into all that gold and monarchy wealth.
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Joey Jo-Jo
sizemilk:I agree, and also to escape from reality and then reality meets illusion.
I did some research on this, most of it is philosophy, this film director almost sounds like.., his opinion is exactly like mine.
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YHWH a minor pagan god: Ugaritic Texts and the Sons of El
by DoomVoyager ininteresting.. here is the first thing i've found on the subject, though i haven't read much of it yet.. http://faculty.gordon.edu/hu/bi/ted_hildebrandt/otesources/05-deuteronomy/text/articles/heiser-deut32-bs.htm.
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Joey Jo-Jo
Is the book of the revelations the only book that refers to Jehovah as the alpha and omega?, im sure I read somewhere in the bible about God that contradicts these gnostic texts.
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crisis of conscience
by inbetween inwhen i was fully in, i never even heard of ray franz or his books.. after learning the truth about the truth, what woke me up, was in the first place the inconsistency of doctrine, the missing logic and the bending of the scripture to fit their theology.. personal experiences i took with a grain of salt.
therefore, even though i learned about "crisis of conscience" i did not bother reading it.
personally i did not doubt, that what he wrote would be true, but i thought, it would not help somebody to get out, because, its his personal experience, which proves nothing in the end.
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Joey Jo-Jo
Dogpatch: are other CJ. Jonsson's books available?
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JWs Not Allowed to Post on Websites?
by StandFirm inthis seems to be a favorite topic to bring up to any witnesses who post on any website where there are any opposers, either here or topix or anywhere.. so, here is the one and only place i will be discussing it.
who can prove that witnesses are specifically told not to post on websites about them?.
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Joey Jo-Jo
StandFirm Im glad your using your logical skills, after all how do you really know if this is correct or the bible differs from another bible etc if you can only examine material from WB&TS and nothing else?. You remind me of the old me and I dont regret what I did.
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JW Talk Radio Launches This Month
by PublishingCult injw talk radio will launch this month on wed 5/11/11, 12pm pst.. .
here is a sneak peak of jw talk radio's first discussion topic.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft83y58xyy0.
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Joey Jo-Jo
Yeah things would be a lot different now like trinity because he only used the kj bible, I wouldn't put it that he is a satanist lol, he sure knows how to make a point like it or not, and we all know the bible is not what its made out to be, but regarding biblical texts - leviticus and romans see what he says about it.
Romans 1
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JW Talk Radio Launches This Month
by PublishingCult injw talk radio will launch this month on wed 5/11/11, 12pm pst.. .
here is a sneak peak of jw talk radio's first discussion topic.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft83y58xyy0.
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Joey Jo-Jo
I would like to ear someones take on youtubes dr walter martin on homosexuality